Andrão Brasileiro Fanático
aka "The Masculist Bachelor"
This quote is one of his status updates from June 24th:Truth is like spicy hot sauce;
some people like it on their food, even though it
burns them a bit when they ingest it,
and other people just can't stomach the hot sauce,
so they prefer to eat their food without it.
- Andrae Williams
This story will come together as you read along. The middle of the story is *here, in this recent post*. The content below tells more of the beginning and some of the end of the story, to date.
Here's the history between him and Aganju. They had some exchange privately. Then he posted something anti-feminist/anti-Aganju/anti-woman. She then turned her back to him and walked out of his sorry sexist life. We may note how he's checked out her photos, commented on many of them, and has read a lot about her and summarised what she's said about herself. And he has the audacity to call me a stalker? In his homophobic dreams.
Here's his "pre-misogyny" correspondence to Aganju:
From Aganju to me:
These are 2 emails he sent me when were still cool that show he didn't think views were extreme and pretended to be understanding. Notice how I wasn't a crazy man hater before I blocked him? And this was after he READ & SUMMERIZED ALL MY NOTES!
Andrão Brasileiro Fanático June 21 at 11:10pm Report
By the way..your notes hilarious...lol...and witty at the same time...totally understand where you're coming from on each issue...
Andrão Brasileiro Fanático June 23 at 12:58pm Report
Picky is good. Shows that you know EXACTLY what you are looking for in a person. I get accused of being too picky sometimes too, but, ask me if i give a fuck...÷)
And i basically went thru your whole page when i first added you, so i know that:
1) You dont want kids ever, and you're tired of people (especially black women) viewing you as a second class citizen because u dont.
2) You hate faux male feminists.
3) You hate hiphop because hiphop hates you (women).
4) You hate Michael Eric Dyson and you think he is a sexist pig.
5) Your views are NOT up for debate.
6) You are a feminist and NOT THE FUN KIND (what does that mean by the way?)
...i know where you stand. We're cool. ÷)
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His status update is a dig at a phrase well-utilised by Aganju referenced by Andrão in point 6 above, which comes from a famous comment by the white Jewish radical feminist Andrea Dworkin, "I'm a radical feminist, not the fun kind". See, for example, *here*.
Note: "Masculist" is a synonym for "misogynist" in the same way that men calling women "misandrists" is code for the truth that the men who use that term are antifeminists." Why don't men who are misogynists and antifeminists just come out of the damn closet and SAY SO? Because "misogynist" and "antifeminist" are WOMEN's terms. And men don't want to be tainted, stigmatised, and made more politically impotent in the homosocially approving eyes of their male brethren by having their identities tarnished by what women say men are (that men are, because women notice it and say it).
Andrão Brasileiro Fanático is a masculist, and NOT THE FUN KIND.
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Cassandra Dea
How so? And what's the fun kind?
June 22 at 3:23pm ·
Andrão Brasileiro Fanático
Lol....the last part is an inside joke...but i am a masculist in that i think the legal system in regards to marriage, divorce, and child custody proceedings are skewed in favour of women...that needs to change.
June 22 at 3:31pm ·
Leon Norway
Exactly!
June 22 at 3:40pm ·
Leon Norway
I wont say I am not for feminism. Just depends on what kinda feminism we are talking about. I do not kiss women's asses and I don't make excuses for men, either. I am an equalist!
June 22 at 6:38pm ·
(Don't get me started on "equalist". Western men are either supportive of feminism or they're antifeminist. That's the choice, men.)
In Andrão's history of looking at Aganju's Facebook images, he had posted several comments under photos. From his FB page:
RECENT ACTIVITY
Andrão commented on Aganju Axe's photo.
Andrão commented on Aganju Axe's photo.
Andrão commented on Aganju Axe's photo.
Those three comments, and two others, read as follows (from Aganju's FB page):
June 25 at 2:25am · · Flag
June 25 at 2:24am · · Flag
Andrão Brasileiro Fanático
The one common trait that ALL women seem to have: a love of shopping..lol
June 22 at 11:20am · · Flag
I call him "The Masculist Bachelor" because his behaviors remind me of something I saw on TV tonight, on a show called "The Bachelorette". As I'm sure you know (wink--or not), white "bachelorette" Ali has narrowed down the good white guys to about a half-dozen, down from around 25. In this competition/romance/reality show, there have been some losers, in more than one sense.
I maintain it is impossible to find true love while being filmed constantly and placed in utterly "unrealistic" situations. The successful marriage stats of those who meet and fall in love on this show bear out this claim. This is ABC exploiting people who, yes, are willing to be exploited. I don't doubt the sincerity of anyone going on this show, only their naivete at believing this is the way to meet someone to marry. But hell, they get to travel a lot, and be treated wonderfully, and while this show has shown itself to only be willing to pay for white het people to find romance among the ratings, which usually ends up on the rocks, it is what it is. I watch it, for goodness sakes, so I'm not one in the best position to take this show too much to task.
I want to offer for your viewing displeasure a clip of this week's show, which aired tonight. It's under five minutes long. Issues of men's dishonesty to women and lack of accountability are all packed into the first half hour, rather blatantly and dramatically. But the video is Ali's final challenge to Justin about honesty and integrity.
Here's what you need to know just happened:
The Bachelorette cut straight to the rumors in tonight's episode by immediately revealing to Ali Fedotowsky that Justin, the "Rated-R" entertainment wrestler has not one, but two girlfriends back home, and even included a personal call from one of the women.
Bachelorette host Chris Harrison promptly interrupted the start of the Turkey episode with the big news.
"There's something I do need to tell, something has come to our attention," Chris Harrison said, saying that he producers had received a call from Jessie, a girl who was on the previous season of "The Bachelor" with Ali. "She gave us some information that is legit. I checked it out."
They placed a call from Turkey to Jessie, in Toronto, Canada, and she explained that Justin was no good.
"One of the guys there has a girlfriend, and that's Justin," Jessie said.
"How do you know this?" Ali asked.
"Cause I'm sitting with his girlfriend right now," Jessie said. "Her name is Jessica."
And then she handed the phone to Justin's girlfriend for a tearful rendition of how they collaborated to get Justin on the show to benefit his wrestling career.
"Me and Justin have been dating for the past two years now. He assured me that he would come back and we would be together, and finally get our plans together to get married," Jessica told Ali.
"I helped him buy suits. I helped him get head shots. I really didn't want to do this from the beginning. The fact that you could potentially choose him to be your husband... and then what?"
Jessica also found out that Ali wasn't the only one getting conned.
"A couple days after he left, I found out he had a girlfriend for the past two months. This is really really hard for me to talk about. I don't know what else to say Ali, I'm sorry."
Ali seemed stunned, but relieved. Then she turned angry.
"Justin was acting the entire time he was here," Ali said. "Everything he said was basically a lie. He was so sweet and so nice. He said 'I'm here for the right reasons' so many times. What a jerk. I'm just pissed."
[source: *here*]
Justin's a liar, a fraud, and has gone onto the show to promote himself for the sake of his career and his relationship with the woman back home. He goes on a show that is for men who are open to and interesting in marrying one woman, the "bachelorette" for this year, Ali. She calls his sexist ass out. And you can see how maturely he handles THAT. All this happens in the first half hour.
I believe one of the key means through which het men obtain contact with heterosexual women is by being dishonest, by withholding crucial information about who they are and what they believe, and then when women find out what they ought to have known from the start, many women walk away, appropriately. I believe if women knew the whole truth about men, women wouldn't choose to get to know many of them, and the men know this, and so they lie, they manipulate, they control, in order to obtain contact, proximity, and intimacy founded on their lies.
That more women don't do more damage to the men who are lying jerks is a bit beyond me--Lorde knows men do shit to women for no reason at all. What Ali says about Justin I find to be spot on. I love it when women call men out on their dishonestly. I love having it exposed to the world what lying bastards men can be, and watching men lie through their teeth to defend or further cover up their deceptions. Damn, this is good, except for the fact that this dickwad did, in fact, hurt three women, if not more.
See it here:
I hope this is a big ol' red flag to heterosexually active women generally. When Andrão posted about being a masculist, not the fun kind, he was dissing Aganju, and disrespecting feminism generally. Aganju realised Andrão was a sexist jerk, she said good-bye. He can't take dismissal without resorting to gross forms of public misogyny, accusing her of all manner of things, conspiring with other men to get their misogynist story "straight".
After she exited, he's been showing what an antifeminist and misogynist he really is. He calls me out on speaking on behalf of her, but why doesn't he call himself out on posting misogynist things about her only after she exits his life? Typically, he wants to be free to do whatever he wants, with no accountability, while he'll quickly critique anyone who does exactly as he does them.
A feminist who noticed his misogyny and sexism, Nicki, very respectfully questioned him, noting the sexist double standards at work. He left up her comments to his discussion thread, but at first ignored her and her comments. She called him out on not answering her questions, and he finally offered up some self-serving explanations for his misogynist actions. I called him out after seeing how he was trying to avoid her questions, and he had banned posts by me from the public discussion.
What we have here is a failure to communicate. We have a failure to communicate because he refuses to engage with me publicly, where other people can see and read the exchange and see his tactics for evading accountability. He has communicated to me privately. He presented what were to me, his rather weak arguments for not keeping my critique up on his discussion page, and I did something that I do with men I don't respect: I call them names. Here's that out-of-the-public-eye exchange between us:
As I said before, if you are one of her friends (and it is highly likely that you are), then I will not let someone else do her defending for her. My beef was not with you, so I do not want to "debate" anything with you. You want to call me sexist? Fine. Have at it, because I know what I am and what I am not. Maybe Terry will be up for it, but I won't give into to your ridiculous attempt at calling me out.
Julian Real June 28 at 11:43am
You and your "assumptions". Why don't you debate me on your page on the terms I raise, rather than coming up with lame excuses for not doing so. Do my arguments have merit or not? Can you handle my critique or not? Apparently not. You won't even allow my comments to be read by anyone else! What are you so afraid of? Rather COWARDLY of you, wouldn't you say?
I just checked Aganju's friendslist, and you are indeed a friend of hers. So no assumption here anymore, but fact. You are a "radical pro feminist", meaning that you have your own views solidly imbedded in your mind, also meaning that any "debate" with you is a waste of time, since you believe that your way is truth, and "sexist" men like myself and our views are "typical" and are foolishness.
Call me all the names you want. You will not be allowed to post your radical views on my page, no matter how many names you call me.
Call me all the names you want. You will not be allowed to post your radical views on my page, no matter how many names you call me.
Julian Real June 28 at 2:38pm
And that's your response to my challenges? You're a wimp.
A smart wimp who doesn't bow to your immature name-calling.
Goodbye. :)
Goodbye. :)
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I'll mention, ever so briefly, his misuse of smiley faces and the term "LOL" on his Facebook page. This is another typical strategy of men behaving as oppressors: for misogynist men it's all just a joke, really it is. I own that I do this too sometimes, sort of as a way to indicate "I'm not furious." Because often, believe it or not, I'm not furious. I'm annoyed and disappointed far more often. So the "lol" is there to ensure the reader that I'm not pissed... at them. But it is used with such frequency by Andrão that it seems to be serving many purposes, and one of them is to be sure he doesn't come across as serious about much, so as not to be taken seriously about what he's doing that is seriously anti-woman.
All he had to do was leave up my challenge to him (see the lower portion of "Part 1"), and, well, respond to the issues raised in it. Instead, he chooses to use the excuse that he wouldn't do so based on me knowing Aganju. This is an interesting argument: this means that misogynists can refuse to be accountable both to feminists and profeminists--if they know each other. If I didn't know her, are we to assume he'd have left up my comments? Well, if someone else wants to ask him the same questions, maybe we'll find out what the truth is.
How utterly convenient to make oneself completely unaccountable to someone just might be able to name the dynamics of what the misogynist is doing. This is a new wrinkle in the patriarchal practice of protecting male entitlements to insult, slander, and degrade women publicly, as he does to Aganju.
I am curious about these methods of patriarchy-protection. I know they are numerous and normal. I seek to identify them, illustrate them, and, when possible, use "real life" examples. So here we are.
Misogynist men routinely deny the realities feminists name. The male misogynists deny it is a reality at all, and they deny any critics the power to name something MEN are doing to WOMEN. Because het men, especially, protect and defend this power to name women's reality with homosocial passion. Het men are homosocially determined to protecting each other's male supremacist entitlements, privileges, and power. There will be exceptions to the rule--hopefully, but the rule is firmly in place, in a patriarchal society. But this is also a white supremacist society.
What does it mean that a white man is calling out a Black man publicly? So far, I haven't seen it arise as an identified issue for Andrão but I'm not in the best position to see if there's a problem here. I know race is never NOT an issue in any interpersonal exchange, including among whites. While Andrão doesn't bring up my race, he does identify my ethnic and sexual identities and social locations. I'd argue, in this case, none of them really are relevant, although, let's face it, white male voices always carry more credibility than voices by men of color. Well, unless the man of color is het and not Jewish and the white man is both. Then it gets a bit trickier as to who has more social status and position, and I think it comes down to context at that point.
This is my analysis about why someone might not challenge the legitimacy of my critique on the grounds that it is white and therefore biased. And I'll state here that I can't know anything at all about what is going on in Andrão's head about this. I don't know, for example, at what point he learned I was gay, Jewish, and white. It may have been well after he deleted my comment. But this I know: Black people in the U.S. are ALWAYS accused by whites, wrongly and racistly, of playing "the race card", as if we whites not only stack that deck, but produce it as well. Whites are the masters, so to speak, of race-card tricks, and let there be no mistake about it.
There was a time when I steered clear of calling out men of color publicly on their sexism and misogyny, as I wondered if doing so was somehow racist. And, for sure, it can be. There are any number of names I could call Andrão that are loaded with social-political meaning that is raced as white supremacist. "Coward" and "wimp", in my experience as a white person who has heard whites call Black people every negative term in the White Supremacist Rule Book, is not high on the list of racially charged terms.
What happened is that my friendships with women of color increased and deepened. And what the women of color in my life have made clear to me is that me not calling out men of color does nothing at all to assist them in their struggles to be free of misogyny and racism. And "alliance" means standing with women, when the misogyny begins to fly, not making excuses for the sexist jerks. This necessitates being able and willing to call out any man if he is being a misogynist. Any man. But not in ways that misuse my power over him due to race privileges. Or any other privileges either.
Andrão brings up me being gay and Jewish at an interesting time in this [lack of] exchange. To me, it shows a need to highlight the places where I don't have institutional/structural power in the U.S., possibly to bring me down a few pegs. Being gay and Jewish places me lower on the intersectional hierarchies of "who is most valued and listened to and validated as having Truth-telling capacity." Were I Black, Jewish, and gay, I'd have even less structural power. Without class privilege, I'd have even less. This is how it works, and I've posted a synopsis of this recently, in the words of someone describing the political/sociological analysis of Patricia Hill Collins. See here for that.
What needs to be noted is how, when men are called out, they duck out of view, find ways to be unaccountable, and lie in order to protect their fictitious and politically self-serving view of reality.
What does me being gay have to do with anything in this situation? What does me being Jewish have to do with anything? I mean I know this guy's a devout Atheist--religiously so--but I'm not religiously Jewish, so there's not even me being an Abrahamic theist for him to critique.
At issue: Andrão deleted my critique of him, not allowing others to read it and reflect on it. So I made sure it saw the light of day. And now there's a special thread just about me (I don't feel honored). But what is it REALLY about? I'd say more it's another diversionary tactic, a sign self-defensiveness, and a belief focusing attention on the messenger will delete the message. Except, well, he's already done that.
He gets to claim I'm stalking him because I'm gay. He's being a homophobic jerk by doing that. Would I be his stalker if I were het? I doubt it. (When will het men realise that not only am I not especially interested in any het men romantically or sexually, but also, I don't find "misogyny" to be an especially attractive quality in men? I had to deal with het male delusions of gorgeous grandeur with MadShangi, who, I'll note, makes Andrão seem like a profeminist by comparison.)
Below is a copy of that brand new thread discussion on his Facebook page about moi, from the following web page:
For the record, researching and documenting his homophobia and misogyny isn't "stalking". If he gets to name this as stalking, as other men do, then this is yet one more way to discredit challenges to them. After this thread's comments, I'll offer up some closing thoughts. And after he deleted my comment, I sent it to a few people, including Terry and DaRohn, who I felt ought to see it. I'll applaud, publicly, D. Eric Harmon's concerted effort to hold him accountable to his lies and illogic. You can read for yourself how Andrão deals with this.
Andrão Brasileiro Fanático is being stalked on facebook by a gay, jewish, radical feminist male who thinks I'm a sexist pig...what should I do?
In closing, I offer this to "The Masculist Bachelor", who appears to like his food bland:
Truth is like spicy hot sauce; some people like it on their food, even though it
burns them a bit when they ingest it, and other people just can't stomach
the hot sauce, so they prefer to eat their food without it.
- Andrae Williams
burns them a bit when they ingest it, and other people just can't stomach
the hot sauce, so they prefer to eat their food without it.
- Andrae Williams
