Wednesday, November 19, 2008

A Response to John Dias who is an administrator at antimisandry.com

Hello visitors.

I recently got a flurry of misogynistic/antifeminist comments (um, unposted here by me, needless to say!) from men associated with the antimisandry.com site. I also got this much more respectful comment:

John Dias said...

I am an admin over at AntiMisandry.com. Are there any questions you would like to ask, rather than just making deductions? I extend my hand to you; please ask away.

Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:50:00 PM EST.

I informed John that, in fact, my questions had been posted over there, and they were not responded to, but were instead by-passed so a few men could rant on in antifeminist and misogynist ways INSTEAD of responding. But I don't assume each administrator over there reads everything, so John may never have seen my q's.

Below is the paragraph I posted over there, with its original questions separated out, and in bold, so as not to be missed. I have welcomed John Dias to answer them here, respectfully and sincerely. I await his reply.


I began by responding to a strange comment by an anti-misandrist man called "cybro" in which he said something about "indians". But the discussion, on my end, was focused on whether and how misandry shows itself socially, and includes issues that negatively impact American Indian women. Anything in brackets is material I have added here today at A Radical Profeminist, hopefully for clarity!!!

OK, enough already! Here's the comment:

I think we all know what happened and is still happening to Indigenous people all over the planet: white men and our values, industries, and institutions are killing them, genocidally. And white men are also systematically raping Indigenous women. See this for more:http://www.indiancountry.com/content...1096415046

What is your humanitarian response to these atrocities?

In what institutions, in what social venues, in what regions of North America, in your view, do "women rule over men"? I am eager to hear your answer.

As for where men get to speak like this: have you looked at the pornography industry in the last thirty five years; men have been putting down women there in every conceivable way, degrading women, raping women, pretending to rape women, cumming on women's faces, gang-banging women, treating women of color like sh*t in particularly racist and misogynist ways.

[So, John, I'll restate the question: Are you familiar with the content of online industry-produced "heterosexual" pornography? And would you describe the content as misogynist, not misandrist, unless it is dealing with the stereotypical portrayal and abuse of men of color?]

Often and routinely over these many years, the pornographers (I'm here I'm talking about the big fellas: the white corporate pimps, not someone at home alone or with a partner using their webcam) make feminists and feminism the targets of this scorn, contempt, and defamation: that's a multi-billion dollar a year industry.

I ask this in earnestness: can you name for me one multi-billion dollar a year industry that promotes (accurately) the perspectives of radical feminists?
Because I can't, and I've looked.

Practically every woman I know has been seriously harmed physically, emotionally, and sexually by a man or by several men, often within their own families of origin: I'm not a youngster, and this means dozens and dozens of women, just those women to whom I am personally connected. One woman friend was molested by three different men over one summer when she was nine years old. Another woman was raped by her father, older brothers, and male cousins when she was a girl. My female dental hygienist was murdered by her ex-boyfriend; he came to her home when she was alone and killed her. I also know boys who have been raped or molested or assaulted by men: again, their numbers are in the dozens, but approximately half as large as the population of females harmed by men in these ways.

Do you know even five women who have been charged with rape, incest, child molestation, criminal battery, women who have detained boys or men in their basements as sexual slaves, women who have trafficked in boys and men for the purposes of sexual gratification, at the expense of the humanity of those so used and abused?

I see men treat one another like sh*t often, beating each other up outside of bars, shouting and threatening each other: white men threatening and discriminating against men of color; heterosexual men bullying and beating gay men.

I'm curious why you don't see men as a significant population of man-haters. [That's a question.]

I honestly (I'm being entirely serious here) know of not one single woman who hates men. Not one. I know women who fear men, based on past experiences; I know women who fight for justice for women, for women to be free from rapist culture, from pornographic culture, from a dominant culture in which Indigenous North American women can be raped by white men without any recourse. I can't "reverse" this phenomenon and match it to reality.

Could you name the social experiences, on a large scale, that lead you to see the world this way?

Regarding your use of the term "feminazi": Given social-political reality, aren't white men "the Nazis," and women of all ethnicities more like "European Jews" than the other way around?

In what sense do feminists in North America control the media, run state police forces, direct the military, and form an unfathomably inhumane dictatorship, as Hitler did?

What sense does it make to call any feminists "Nazis"? Please explain this to me. (Thank you.)

How have you been harmed, personally, by women?

I look forward to your response. Thanks for engaging on this topic. I appreciate your willingness to keep the dialogue open.

Julian


[NOTE: the above was posted on July 24, 2008 11:13 AM at antimisandry.com. John never responded to me there. There were no extended hands... until now.]

4 comments:

Anti Misandry said...

Hi ARPF,

You say you have posted these to antimisandry.com but a quick search I did came up empty handed...

Could you please supply a direct link to where you posted these questions?

John Dias said...

Thanks for the opportunity. I need a couple days to formulate a response with comprehensive and meaningful answers. I'm just letting you know that I got the message and will be responding shortly.

Julian Real said...

Hi Anti Misandry.

I welcome the opportunity to clarify this.

I was reminded that it was Frostyboy, a member of antimisandry.com--not me--who first published my questions there, on August 8, 2008.

This link takes you to where these questions first existed on your site. Once noticing it there, I was curious to know if anyone at your site would actually answer them. No one did. This is the link to where these questions, to antimisandry.com member, cybro, first appeared on this blog.

The only responses I have received so far, here, were geared to give your crew and other Men's Rights misogynists a warning about how foolish it would be to answer my questions. Kapt Krunch, aka blogger Bob Allen, summed up the aversion to doing so this way:

There is no point debating these ladies. They use the same old worn out tricks in the feminist playbook to stay off subject. There never is a discussion. It's all personal attacks and accusations.

As you can see from this link to Bob's blog, today he has posted a piece titled "Never send a c*nt to do a man's work". [His blog puts a "u" where I have an asterisk.]

My contention that the terms "antimisandrist" and "Men's Rights Activist" are, in fact, synonyms for antifeminist misogynists is further detailed by this information.

Julian Real said...

Nov. 22, 2008 UPDATE:

I no long welcome or will post comments from any misogynists, racists, antiWomanists, or antifeminists. That includes those I have encountered so far from antimisandry.com.