tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post546223899533858307..comments2024-03-13T11:14:26.768-04:00Comments on A Radical Profeminist: "Unpacking the Male Privilege Jockstrap": the 100 Male Privileges Checklist (2009)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-22787994322706528762021-05-30T18:49:00.949-04:002021-05-30T18:49:00.949-04:00Thanks a million, Julian Realš
La ReynaThanks a million, Julian Realš<br /><br />La ReynaLa Reynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475695241687396578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-37126485083811427222021-05-25T16:02:44.716-04:002021-05-25T16:02:44.716-04:00Thank you, La Reyna, for alerting me to these stor...Thank you, La Reyna, for alerting me to these stories. I will embed the links below so people can get over to your posts to read them.<br /><br /><a href="https://httpjournalsaolcomjenjer6steph.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-media-gave-chad-wheeler-cover.html" rel="nofollow"><br />Journal de La Reyna, posted on Feb. 3, 2021: "The Media Gave Chad Wheeler Cover"</a><br /><br />and<br /><a href="https://httpjournalsaolcomjenjer6steph.blogspot.com/2019/01/paternalistic-racism-of-colin-flaherty.html" rel="nofollow"><br />Journal de La Reyna, posted on Jan. 22, 2019: "Paternalistic Racism of Colin Flaherty: Black Women are Victims of Rape. Why? White Racism: Colin Flaherty Concerned Trolling as Usual. (update)"</a>Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-68576887421766825392021-02-05T12:32:05.897-05:002021-02-05T12:32:05.897-05:00We need to talk about Chad Wheeler and his abuse o...We need to talk about Chad Wheeler and his abuse of his former Black girlfriend. The media didn't cover it except for Black media and ESPN(Just a tad, of course)<br /><br />https://httpjournalsaolcomjenjer6steph.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-media-gave-chad-wheeler-cover.html<br /><br />Also, the concern trolling from white male racists such as Colin Flaherty and their obsession with rape.<br /><br />https://httpjournalsaolcomjenjer6steph.blogspot.com/2019/01/paternalistic-racism-of-colin-flaherty.html<br /><br />La ReynaLa Reynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475695241687396578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-91255533879178067032021-02-05T12:23:32.027-05:002021-02-05T12:23:32.027-05:00Thank you Julian Real for making men, especially h...Thank you Julian Real for making men, especially hetero white men accountable for their misdeeds and evil. I appreciated your website.<br /><br />La ReynaLa Reynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475695241687396578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-15669595977703587812020-10-02T14:43:10.182-04:002020-10-02T14:43:10.182-04:00I was wondering were did you get all the facts fro...I was wondering were did you get all the facts from because when I clicked on source it just brought up the article with no research. I would love to see the research papers. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17474544525096130610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-65870327474101706382009-12-16T09:03:18.822-05:002009-12-16T09:03:18.822-05:00Hi acorben,
Thanks for that assessment, the link,...Hi acorben,<br /><br />Thanks for that assessment, the link, and for sharing more of your own commitments.<br /><br />I have great affection for the Radical Faeries and great respect for the People's Institute for Survival and Beyond. I went to a workshop given by The People's Institute in the '80s.<br /><br />And I feel no siblinghood with groups that prioritise and privilege Western white class-privileged heterosexual men's feelings over atrocities against women of all colors.<br /><br />For me, as noted, any "Men's Movement" is right up there with White Nationalism in its political commitment to radical justice for the oppressed.<br /><br />I am glad you are finding places that support you challenging your own and other white men's misogyny, heterosexism, Western cultural and spiritual imperialist practices, racism, and ecocidal ways of being. For me, being a responsible white man means using everything one has in the way of voice and resources to call out the injustices, inhumane acts, and larger atrocities that white men refuse to name and own as ours--ours in the sense that we control and operate them, and ours in the sense that we must end them and not place that burden on anyone else.<br /><br />I wish every white class-privileged man who isn't precluded from doing so by disability, woke up and while taking in the first waking breaths of the day, read and reread <a href="http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.html" rel="nofollow">Andrea Dworkin's speech to 500 anti-sexist men</a> and set forth to do whatever is in his power to do to end rapism and racism.Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-31785840784799317652009-12-16T02:44:11.831-05:002009-12-16T02:44:11.831-05:00You certainly don't need to join to come to a ...You certainly don't need to join to come to a NOMAS conference. August 2010, in Anaheim, in conjunction with the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence. I hope you'll consider it.<br /><br />My experience of the First International Men's Conference was pretty similar to that of a much better writer: You can see that piece here: www.donshewey.com/sex_articles/wild_in_the_suites.html<br /><br />It was terrible. It went on two more years, each time with half the attendance. I couldn't stomach any more than that. That's when I went to NOMAS directly and met the Radical Faeries, and all the rest. <br /><br />I have had a marvelously nurtured time, and have learned from some really fabulous people. They sent me to The People's Institute for Survival and Beyond to get anti-racist training... and so on and so forth. It's been good for me, and I know that I'm still quite unconscious of the ways in which I, with no malicious intention, make it harder for 'other' people to live (whatever the category of other means in a particular context). My job now is to try and get more of people like me (since I'm pretty squarely in the dominating group) to stop perpetuating the oppression and try to live in a way that does not marginalize any group, because not only is it right, not only is it the least I should do for another human being, it's also better for me. <br /><br />I'm delighted to find your blog, even if you never come to a NOMAS event.acorbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17188799543083452360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-45125346622174109112009-12-12T06:47:56.776-05:002009-12-12T06:47:56.776-05:00Hi acorben,
Thanks so much for filling me in and ...Hi acorben,<br /><br />Thanks so much for filling me in and also for pointing out the problem with #53! I changed it so it is now more in line with what ads say. So I appreciate you bringing my attention to that.<br /><br />I am familiar, in a variety of ways, with NOMAS. A small group of people, once upon a time, worked to get their name to change from The National Organisation for Changing Men to The National Organisation for Men Against Sexism. And it was quite a struggle.<br /><br />I'm glad Michael Kimmel is calling out the outrageous level of white supremacist appropriation of Indigenous cultures. It's always been so utterly disgusting, exploitive, and profoundly religiously insensitive to me. But it's more than akin to whites putting on red-face. It's blatantly flaunting our genocidal ways, perpetuating and celebrating them in the process. The actions aren't just exploitive and insensitive, they are part of the on-going genocide.<br /><br />I don't quite understand the purpose of that international meeting. As if those sorts of men need to get organised and networked? Yikes. That's like finding out there are tons of White groups getting together internationally, like White Rights, White Colonisers, White Nationalists, Anti-Indigenous cultural appropriation groups, White eurocentric literature clubs, and oh, yes, one small group of whites who understand that white racism against people of color is a problem that needs addressing. I find the news that that occurred as planned very dangerous indeed. I hope the first was the last.<br /><br />What was your experience of it, though? (I wasn't there. Gratefully.)<br /><br />I wish more men were open to scrutinising and challenging our privileges and sexist language, and other ways we abuse our power, status, position, and entitlements. And I'm happy to hear of the work you've been doing! <br /><br />Sounds like NOMAS has nurtured you. I'm glad.<br /><br />Perhaps one day we will meet. But I don't join men's groups, so it won't likely be at a NOMAS meeting. I'm supportive of their being such an organisation, to be sure. But I wouldn't be part of any organisation that would have me as a member. ; )Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-12968578144935816582009-12-12T02:55:36.670-05:002009-12-12T02:55:36.670-05:00Part 2 of 2, since the blogger helpdesk seems to b...Part 2 of 2, since the blogger helpdesk seems to be saying longer comments won't work.<br /><br />"We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes," so when I attempt to answer the question how am I implementing the other 99 items, I do not say I have done enough. I adjusted my language to more directly name the oppression: not 'a prostitute,' but 'a prostituted woman.' Not 'the oppression' but 'how men oppress women.' Not 'the dominant group' and 'the minority group' but 'the dominating group' and 'the marginalized group.' I don't claim to be an āally;" that title that can only be given. I am learning again and again how white-skin, heterosexual, Christian, class, and all the other privileges are hidden from me, so that I can believe the system is fair. Yet consciousness raising and modifying my language arenāt enough; patriarchy must be ended.<br /><br />To that end, I've organized a pro-feminist conference. I've written letters, brought speakers, marched at rallies, attended pride events. I contribute money, time, and energy. When I get praised for doing this, I try to remind that I'll be praised for extraordinary anti-sexist work if I'm even marginally competent, and that more competent women doing better work will not be praised, but will be derided as 'man-haters' and worse. <br /><br />I take it as a bare minimum for my humanity to strive to be open to hearing from anyone how my behavior makes it harder for them to live on this planet. When a woman catches me playing the sexist game and calls me on it, I say 'Of course! I was raised here in the US; how could I have been otherwise? Now, let me figure out how to stop behaving in that sexist way.ā I don't fear that label; I can forgive myself for having learned well what I was taught, and I can forgive those who taught me as <i>they</i> were taught. I can forgive, but I strive not to perpetuate. The people to whom I now apprentice myself name the oppression, but they donāt attack individuals for behaving in ways that the whole society reinforces. They donāt hate the player; they hate the game. I ask myself "Do I want to continue playing that game? If not, what game <b>do</b> I want to play, and what are the rules of <b>that</b> game? <br /><br />I like myself for struggling to stop playing those games, and I'd be delighted, Julian, to join you in discovering how to end those oppressive games (personally and societally), and play a new one, together.acorbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17188799543083452360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-69821169045410518682009-12-12T02:55:04.140-05:002009-12-12T02:55:04.140-05:00Part 1 of 2, since the blogger helpdesk seems to b...Part 1 of 2, since the blogger helpdesk seems to be saying longer comments won't work.<br /><br />> 53. I am not inundated with ads<br />> that bring the public's attention<br />> to my crotch or reproductive organs.<br /><br />There are Viagra and Cialis ads, but thatās minor compared to the other 99 items on this list.<br /><br />Years ago, I decided to find out more about what feminism meant. I took a few classes and was floored by what I learned, socially and personally. They had a powerful impact on my own growth and development.<br /><br />I bumped into the ā1st International Men's Conference,ā which billed itself as bringing together the different 'tribes' of the men's movement: Men's Rights, Mythopoetic, 12-Step, 'pro-sex', male supremacists (really), homosexuals, and, last and least, pro-feminist men. 'Least' because 'the tribe' of pro-feminist men was one person. I went to a workshop by that one person: Michael Kimmel. He had some "Tame Questions for Wild Men" such as "Isn't the adoption of Native American traditions to give expression to 'deep masculinity' akin to putting on 'red-face'?" That got me to the conference put on by the National Organization for Men Against Sexism, for which Michael is a spokesperson. I met Jim Hanneken, Victor Lewis, and Bob Brannon, all strong pro-feminist men. I also met Rose Garrity, Phyllis Frank, and other strong feminist women who were on the council of NOMAS. I started to learn what it means to be accountable: as a man to feminists, as a heterosexual to gay men and lesbians, as a white person to people of color. The NOMAS analysis was that oppressions are not primarily actions of individuals toward individuals but systemic actions with societal reinforcement and legal codification. I joined and have been part of NOMAS for 15 years.acorbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17188799543083452360noreply@blogger.com