tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post4117832878992821867..comments2024-03-13T11:14:26.768-04:00Comments on A Radical Profeminist: "Time to End War Against The Earth", a speech delivered by Dr. Vandana Shiva on the Occasion of Her Receiving Sydney's Peace Prize, 3 November 2010Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-32382940446945687192010-12-18T23:22:46.554-05:002010-12-18T23:22:46.554-05:00Hi Amna,
I'm going to make this into a separa...Hi Amna,<br /><br />I'm going to make this into a separate post, as it falls outside the posted discussion.<br /><br />But I'm glad you're raising these issues.<br /><br />So, please feel free to comment more in the new 18 or 19 Dec 2010 post about this issue of homosocial/homoerotic behavior and bonding.Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-54605277693135704422010-12-18T22:32:26.621-05:002010-12-18T22:32:26.621-05:00I was using the word homoerotic to explain these s...I was using the word homoerotic to explain these social behaviours, especially because I find that there is something different about the amount of bounding that human males have. Other mammalian males fight each other and expend their violence towards each other... not the female.<br />Of course, I'm talking about HET behaviour. <br />Gang rape seems like something very unique to humans. It is predatorial, although men have forgotten the instinct of hunting for food.<br />Discussing sex, instead of competing with each other for sex, is homoerotic bonding (for lack of a better term, it is something covert and not homosexual in that the men are looking after each other's sexuality rather than acutally loving each other's bodies or persons in a romantic way.) This can be actual bisexual behaviour especially in instances of war, where men have historically slept with each other for their common goal of war and pillaging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-87298803186725228432010-12-18T00:59:51.895-05:002010-12-18T00:59:51.895-05:00Hi Amna,
1. Homosocial. In this case, it's no...Hi Amna,<br /><br />1. Homosocial. In this case, it's not a term I made up! Here's a link with a definition.<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosociality" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosociality</a><br /><br />It is used among my feminist friends to refer to "male bonding that isn't gay". Het male bonding rituals, such as team sports, going to sporting events, shooting animals, drinking beer, watching sports on TV, talking about cars, talking in vile and disgustingly pornographic ways about women they've been sexual with or hope to be sexual with, etc.<br /><br />2. The Andrea Dworkin speech is online and is called "I Want A 24 Truce During Which There is No Rape" and the passage is here:<br /><br />"You can't have equality or tenderness or intimacy as long as there is rape, because rape means terror. It means that part of the population lives in a state of terror and pretends--to please and pacify you--that it doesn't. So there is no honesty. How can there be? Can you imagine what it is like to live as a woman day in and day out with the threat of rape? Or what it is like to live with the reality? I want to see you use those legendary bodies and that legendary strength and that legendary courage and the tenderness that you say you have in behalf of women; and that means against the rapists, against the pimps, and against the pornographers. It means something more than a personal renunciation. It means a systematic, political, active, public attack. And there has been very little of that.<br /><br />I came here today because I don't believe that rape is inevitable or natural. If I did, I would have no reason to be here. If I did, my political practice would be different than it is."<br /><br />3. The difference on this blog between feminist and profeminist is this: feminists are women; profeminists are men.<br /><br />There's no sure rule about it. Some men call themselves feminist. Some women prefer men call themselves profeminist. So, as I'm not female or a woman, I choose to respect the women who prefer that non-women call themselves profeminist. <br /><br />If you have questions or thoughts about that, I welcome you to post them to an earlier blog post's comments section. Here is the link:<br /><br /><a href="http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2010/01/feminist-or.html" rel="nofollow">http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2010/01/feminist-or.html</a>Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-42116376731309229882010-12-17T23:50:03.310-05:002010-12-17T23:50:03.310-05:00Three questions on your intro:
What is "homo...Three questions on your intro:<br /><br />What is "homosocially"? I am not sure if you have provided the meaning in your glossary.<br /><br />Which Andrea Dworkin speech do you refer to, do you have a quote in regards to the movement not looking violent?<br /><br />What is the difference between feminist and pro-feminist? Again, you may have explained that in your glossary, so you can just direct me to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com