tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post2492445258560940749..comments2024-03-13T11:14:26.768-04:00Comments on A Radical Profeminist: Glenn Beck, Fux News' Homo Palien Prime Minister, is a Patriarchal White Christian Putz (some of those terms are synonymous; others are mix-and-match)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-60894718105390935392010-07-25T10:39:50.151-04:002010-07-25T10:39:50.151-04:00Here's that link, Patti, and for anyone else:
...Here's that link, Patti, and for anyone else:<br /><br /><a href="http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2010/07/what-most-christians-dont-want-you-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2010/07/what-most-christians-dont-want-you-to.html</a>Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-80755616393736222562010-07-25T10:37:09.185-04:002010-07-25T10:37:09.185-04:00Hi Patti,
I'm open to discussing this, of cou...Hi Patti,<br /><br />I'm open to discussing this, of course. And let's do it on the blog post about Jesus and Christianity, okay?Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-24835301075447301422010-07-23T02:37:02.973-04:002010-07-23T02:37:02.973-04:00Julian, I would truly be very interested in listen...Julian, I would truly be very interested in listening, open-mindedly and open-heartedly, to your perspective and your learnings about who Jesus was and what he was speaking about through the theological lens with which you are far more familiar than I.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15280718300138682860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-17631874351341373482010-07-23T01:35:50.302-04:002010-07-23T01:35:50.302-04:00"What he was, was a political radical and rev..."What he was, was a political radical and revolutionary with a radical spiritual experience and ethic."<br /><br />I have often tried to explain to people how Christianity in its early stages, when they did not call themselves Christians....or any type of religious nomenclature, for that matter, was a very subversive movement against the systemic hierarchical and patriarchal values and norms of <br />society. It was intended to erode the rotten, decadent, worldly societal structure from the inside out.<br /><br />Julian, even if you and I don't maybe agree on some beliefs about who Jesus was (and yes, I am aware that he was a Jew, and no, I don't think that you thought I believed otherwise), I think that we do at least partly agree that if people acted more Jesus-like or Christ-like in their dealings with others,<br />the world just might be a better place than it currently is.<br /><br />"I'm frequently astounded at the ignorance that Christians demonstrate on what Jesus said and did"<br /><br />Yes, that and the fact that he most likely resembled Osama Bin Laden far more than he resembled Fabio Lanzoni.<br /><br />As for mixing "Christianity" (I put it in quotes because what I am referring to is NOT Christianity the way I believe it to truly be) with politics (so I can at least APPEAR to be staying on-topic, LOL!):<br />"The Myth of a Christian Nation: How the Quest for Political Power Is Destroying the Church" by Gregory A. BoydUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15280718300138682860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-46097516625835175182010-07-22T23:37:05.472-04:002010-07-22T23:37:05.472-04:00As a white gay male profeminist Jew in a white Chr...As a white gay male profeminist Jew in a white Christian het male supremacist society, I've had to familiarise myself a lot with who Jesus was and what he said--what he said as a Jew. (As he was, after all, a Jew.)<br /><br />Most but not all "Christianity" has deviated rather radically from anything Jesus stood for.<br /><br />He's been rewritten as an mild and peaceful person, drifting around across land and water preaching the word of G-d that is "love". <br /><br />What he was, was a political radical and revolutionary with a radical spiritual experience and ethic. He preached against oppression, stood with the oppressed, didn't judge those most harmed in society, did judge--harshly--the most oppressive in society, and Empire, and told people not to worship any MAN.<br /><br />See, for example--not YOU Patti, but to the general audience, if interested:<br /><br /><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=FdOn0Ih6ebMC&dq=john+crossan,+jesus&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=uAlJTPOoA4KB8gaKsKDbDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow"><i>Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography</i></a>, by John Dominic Crossan, and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Why-Christianity-Must-Change-Die/dp/0060675365" rel="nofollow"><i>Why Christianity Must Change or Die</i></a>, by John Shelby Spong.<br /><br />I'm frequently astounded at the ignorance that Christians demonstrate on what Jesus said and did--usually allegedly, usually layered into the Bible not by anyone who ever heard Jesus speak one word about anything at all. And to the extent there is agreement on what he said, it is rarely seen as "Jewish", which, of course, it was. See also, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/This-Hebrew-Lord-Shelby-Spong/dp/0060675209/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279855730&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow"><i>This Hebrew Lord</i></a>, by J. S. Spong. His understandings are mostly consistent with my own. Christian Jesus Scholars, as well as people like the Pope, know well that there was no Resurrection, except as a metaphoric event, not a literal one. <br /><br />They know, well, that he wasn't born to a virgin, that he had a daddy who wasn't G-d, and that Mary Magdalene was his closest confidant and most trusted disciple, and not a prostitute. (But he surely held prostitutes in far higher regard than political and economic heads of State, for every good reason.)<br /><br />Jesus was a Jew. If someone forgets that, they're forgetting a lot and are not understanding what the heck he was speaking about, and through what theological lens.Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-62423226782699936052010-07-22T20:46:17.643-04:002010-07-22T20:46:17.643-04:00People like Beck and many MANY others have no idea...People like Beck and many MANY others have no idea of what true Christianity is, because the indoctrination of "Churchianity" has been so prevalent and pervasive since the Emperor Constantine decided to 'embrace' Christianity (and succeeding in absolutely perverting it).<br /><br />Julian, a man who claims that he is Jewish, appears to me to be far more Christian in his way of being in the world than most self-professed Christians that I have encountered.<br /><br />Christianity, far from being a religion, is a way of life.....a way of being in the world. Being "Christ-like" in the way that we treat our fellow human beings (and obviously I fall short of that on many occasions). It's about SHARING with others and helping one another. It's about giving of your power, your wealth, your gifts....whatever you have....to exalt and uplift those who are weaker in strength, in spirit, in WHATEVER area they are weak. It is definitely NOT about stepping on others, crushing and oppressing them in order to exalt yourself.<br /><br />Okay, I'll stop preaching now.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15280718300138682860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-20720488997884775892010-07-19T23:17:24.391-04:002010-07-19T23:17:24.391-04:00Yeah, Chris.
He's a "piece of work"...Yeah, Chris.<br /><br />He's a "piece of work" or a piece of some other four-letter word.Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-68567528651076816692010-07-19T22:26:55.193-04:002010-07-19T22:26:55.193-04:00Good god I hate Glenn Beck.Good god I hate Glenn Beck.Chris O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05832694518443803305noreply@blogger.com