tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post1821051484402193039..comments2024-03-13T11:14:26.768-04:00Comments on A Radical Profeminist: Who Bears the Responsibility for Rape? Do You See Rape as an Act Women Should Try and Avoid, or the Responsibility of Men to End?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-33171903991512700062010-02-07T04:40:41.830-05:002010-02-07T04:40:41.830-05:00Agreed, Chris, and thank you for being out there t...Agreed, Chris, and thank you for being out there to make that point.<br /><br />I am reminded of this. (If anyone can place this quote of AD's, I welcome you to send me the book and page it is on.)<br /><br />"As Andrea Dworkin once famously said about date-rape victims: the punishment for getting drunk with a frat boy and taking him to your room should be a hangover, not rape."<br /><br />You make an excellent point: being told someone is a creep should mean that at the end of the date or time or whatever, a woman might come away thinking--yeah, he is a creep!<br /><br />But if people were clear with each other and said "He's been known to rape women on dates", I personally don't know any women who would proceed to go out with him, and even if they did, their doing so doesn't mean they welcome him raping them. It simply may mean they wish to give him the benefit of the doubt.Julian Realhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933612851144914687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6744114065733119575.post-26241214655169107842010-02-06T20:13:48.782-05:002010-02-06T20:13:48.782-05:00I was just having this conversation with my good f...I was just having this conversation with my good friend the other night. Apparently at his wedding in September, one of the bridesmaids was drinking and talking with some guy in his car and he tried to rape her. My friend's wife said she warned the woman that the guy was a creeper. My friend was wondering whether that warning means anything, and I think that is relevant to this discussion. I would say, yes, the warning means something about promiscuity, but NOT rape. Warning someone that a dude might try to talk their way to the bedroom doesn't in any way excuse rape. I have heard people warn women that a certain male is promiscuous and creepy, but I have never ever heard anyone warn someone that "he might rape you." So obviously it's an entirely different matter.<br /><br />Rape is perpetrated by rapists. Regardless of any other things the victim has done, the rape is in no way their fault. Period. Drunk, sober, on drugs, thought she said yes, whatever. Rape is fucking rape.Chris O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05832694518443803305noreply@blogger.com